# Do we still need Zookeeper in Kafka?

**URL:** <https://forum.confluent.io/t/do-we-still-need-zookeeper-in-kafka/308>\
**Category:** Ops\
**Created:** [3 December 2020 14:44 UTC](https://forum.confluent.io/t/do-we-still-need-zookeeper-in-kafka/308 "2020-12-03T14:44:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![rmoff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.confluent.io/rmoff/32/3_2.png) [@rmoff](https://forum.confluent.io/u/rmoff)\
**Post date:** [3 December 2020 14:44 UTC](https://forum.confluent.io/t/do-we-still-need-zookeeper-in-kafka/308/1 "2020-12-03T14:44:46Z")

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When will KIP-500 be released?

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**Author:** ![atulyab9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@atulyab9](https://forum.confluent.io/u/atulyab9)\
**Post date:** [3 February 2021 22:12 UTC](https://forum.confluent.io/t/do-we-still-need-zookeeper-in-kafka/308/2 "2021-02-03T22:12:52Z")

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Yes. Because Kafka relies on Zookeeper for these functionalities:

Server failure detection.  
Maintaining topics and ACLs.  
Persisting ISR sets, etc.

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**Author:** ![gkoenig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forum.confluent.io/gkoenig/32/312_2.png) [@gkoenig](https://forum.confluent.io/u/gkoenig)\
**Post date:** [22 February 2021 09:43 UTC](https://forum.confluent.io/t/do-we-still-need-zookeeper-in-kafka/308/3 "2021-02-22T09:43:03Z")

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We’re getting close to get rid of Zookeeper 😃  
Kafka v2.8 looks to be the first version with access to “pure kafka”

> **[42 Ways ZooKeeper Removal Improves Apache Kafka](https://www.confluent.io/blog/42-ways-zookeeper-removal-improves-kafka/)**
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> With KIP-500, Kafka will NOT need ZooKeeper anymore. Here are all the ways ZooKeeper removal benefits Kafka, with 42 things you can finally stop doing when Kafka 2.8.0 is released.